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Post by earthman on Dec 13, 2007 15:28:23 GMT -4
I'm working on writing a song in open E tuning, played with a slide. The problem is, I can never get all six strings in tune with one another. I mean, if I'm not using the slide, they sound fine, but as soon as I throw the slide in, it sounds like the higher strings are a bit out of tune with the lower ones.
I was just wondering, when people play slide, do they tune the higher strings slightly sharp or flat to make up for this, or am I just not holding the slide in the right place?
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Post by stratman on Dec 13, 2007 17:07:26 GMT -4
I'm NO expert dude so i could be WAY off the mark, but are you sure open E tuning works for slide? i do know that with open D tuning you can get 6 string chords with a slide (Rye Cooder, Keith Richards use open D) but i don't know about open E, as for slide positioning...as long as your directly over the fret you should be ok.
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Post by earthman on Dec 13, 2007 17:19:50 GMT -4
I think any open tuning works with a slide. I mean, open E tuning is just open D with every string two semitones higher.
I don't know, though. Like when I have the slide over the 3rd or 5th fret, it sounds alright, and the 12th sounds perfect, but if I take it up to 7th or 10th there's some weird un-pitchiness. It is most unusual. I probably just need to get better at it, I've never really done anything with a slide beyond trying to get weird noises.
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Post by stratman on Dec 13, 2007 18:09:53 GMT -4
Do bear in mind you can only get chords on certain frets, i've no info on open E, but in open D they would be: 3rd fret F 5th fret G 7th fret A 12th fret D My theory knowledge is limited to say the least! but you may be able to convert these chord to open E or work out which frets these chords would be at in open E, you already seem to be pretty spot on with the exception of the 7th fret
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Post by earthman on Dec 13, 2007 18:22:48 GMT -4
Do bear in mind you can only get chords on certain frets, i've no info on open E, but in open D they would be: 3rd fret F 5th fret G 7th fret A 12th fret D Well actually, the ones in between would be your sharps/flats. 4th would be F#/Gb, 6th would be G#/Ab, and so on. But they would all be major chords, if it's an open major tuning.
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Post by Akira on Dec 13, 2007 18:59:11 GMT -4
It may be due to the intonation being out of whack when you change the tuning.
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Post by Skeleton Keys on Dec 13, 2007 19:45:04 GMT -4
Yes yes, I support Sean's statement... That, and keeping the slide parallel with the frets could help... Though I guess you already knew that...
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Post by earthman on Dec 13, 2007 20:01:57 GMT -4
It may be due to the intonation being out of whack when you change the tuning. Yeah, I was thinking that, but hoping it wasn't. Intonating things is a pain, especially when you go back and forth between tunings fairly frequently. I think I need a few more guitars, so I can keep one of each in my favourite tunings.
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Post by Akira on Dec 14, 2007 14:50:18 GMT -4
It may be due to the intonation being out of whack when you change the tuning. I think I need a few more guitars, so I can keep one of each in my favourite tunings. Yes yes! That is of course the best solution to everything! ;D
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Post by aschleman on Dec 23, 2007 18:22:08 GMT -4
intonation may be an issue.... yes
most slide players mix up their string guages as well...
another thing to keep in mind is that most setups have the strings at an arch that is parallel to the radius of the fretboard.... slide players raise their action and have the string radius flattened so the slide contacts all the strings equally...... but on the other hand, some slide players that learn on electric like a bit of an arch to the radius to give it kind of a violin like effect... the one guitar that i have in open d tuning is setup with flat string radius... makes it easier for me.
just a few things about slide setups that i've figured out... i've been dabbling with the slide recently as well. but when i see derek trucks play it usually just makes me want to stop attempting to play slide all together.
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