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Post by stratman on Dec 30, 2007 10:46:09 GMT -4
So on another guitar site that i sometimes visit there has been some complaints recently about the cost of fuel in America, alot of people not happy because it's hit around 3 dollars a gallon over there, now i know you gotta keep things in perspective in terms of wages, cost of livin, exchange rates etc but seriously, i just filled my tank this mornin and i can tell ya i'm glad i'm not an American visiting the Uk, at the current exchange rate (approx $1.98 US or $1.97 CND to the pound) it would have cost me $9.65 a gallon! as it is it cost me £65! so roughly $125 if it gets much more expensive over here then pretty soon it'll be cheaper for me to fly to the US with my car and fill up over there, £1.51 a gallon sounds pretty tempting to me.
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Post by earthman on Dec 30, 2007 14:43:43 GMT -4
One of my supervisors at work finds it funny how people complain about gas prices being around $1 a litre, and yet they will willingly buy a small bottle of water from us for $3 and leave half of it in the theatre anyway.
Idiots, I tells ya.
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Post by Akira on Dec 30, 2007 20:32:40 GMT -4
If I put £10 in the car I don't even get a quarter of a tank; it's only a 1.4.
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Post by thesmitchens on Dec 30, 2007 21:34:29 GMT -4
It's a solid 3-something around here. It keeps changing so blasted fast. Drive home from work, $2.70. Drive to work the next day, $3.19. To say the least I'm not fond of it. Lucky for us the people that decide this stuff don't care what we think.
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Post by Mr. G. on Dec 31, 2007 11:33:16 GMT -4
If I put £10 in the car I don't even get a quarter of a tank; it's only a 1.4. What does your car being a 1.4L have to do with how big the gas tank is I never really appreciated the US gas prices until I moved out of the US. It's not that bad here in Nova Scotia (~$1.12/L) compared to some places in the world, but it still sucks donkey balls when it costs over $60 CAD to fill up my Jeep. Especially since I don't have any type of income at the moment
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Post by elklandercc on Dec 31, 2007 15:26:47 GMT -4
What really sucks is that diesel use to be significantly lower than gas, now everyone is buying diesels for whatever reason (they don't use them to haul) and the price jacked way up. $130 to fill up my brothers truck.
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Post by Skeleton Keys on Dec 31, 2007 21:15:41 GMT -4
...More reasons to delay from getting my liscence...
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Post by taylormade on Jan 1, 2008 12:23:23 GMT -4
Try driving a 6.0L On the highway I can get a whopping 14.5 mpg. It has a 33 gallon tank to compensate for the poor mileage. Diesel burns more efficiently, and therefore gets better mileage, which is why a lot of people are switching to it. Unfortunately it seems the oil companies have caught on to it and have raised the price of diesel considerably. I recall not too long ago (less than 1 year) diesel was a few cents cheaper than "regular".
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Post by Akira on Jan 2, 2008 19:32:50 GMT -4
If I put £10 in the car I don't even get a quarter of a tank; it's only a 1.4. What does your car being a 1.4L have to do with how big the gas tank is Just that the car should be cheap to run as it's a small engine, but it's not. Oh wait, now I see, yeah, I was tired when I wrote that and missed out some of my intended reply.
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Post by stratman on Jan 3, 2008 15:13:29 GMT -4
Crude oil just hit $100 a barrel, expect another hike in fuel prices
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Post by Akira on Jan 3, 2008 21:15:16 GMT -4
I don't get how there's an apparant need for oil to be expensive yet oil companies are making record profits.
Someone tell me what i'm missing here?
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Post by Hunter60 on Jan 3, 2008 21:45:27 GMT -4
I'm not one who subscribes easily to conspiracy theories but this entire oil crisis, speculators setting prices, the war in Iraq and the fact that despite all of this, the oil companies continue to turn in record profits quarter after quarter after quarter really makes you wonder. I suspect that prices will continue to rise until the 2008 presidential election. Let's just see what happens after that. If prices take a substantial drop post-election, that'll tell you something.
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Post by thesmitchens on Jan 3, 2008 22:05:16 GMT -4
Easy to put together when you've got a president from an oil-extremist state, and oil seems to be connected to everything on his agenda.
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Post by Hunter60 on Jan 3, 2008 22:28:49 GMT -4
Easy to put together when you've got a president from an oil-extremist state, and oil seems to be connected to everything on his agenda. You're right about that. Big Oil has been a very, very kind friend to GW and his gang for a long time. And he's been returning the favor back in spades since 2000.
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Post by Rustee on Jan 3, 2008 23:20:11 GMT -4
Ah, the evil oil companies eh? I only see the record profits as a result of ever increasing demand and larger output capacities. Their profit margins aren't astronomical. Exxon's was a little over 11% Google's profit margin...nearly 27%. Yet you don't hear any politicians rallying to raise their taxes due to "excessive" profits, whatever that means. But the oil companies make easy scapegoats. A further comparison: Exxon's income = almost $40,000,000,000 Exxon's taxes = nearly $28,000,000,000 Google's income = $3,075,000,000 Google's taxes = $934,000,000 The recent rise in the price of oil (and thus to a great degree the price of gasoline) is mainly due to 3 factors: 1. Speculators driving the price on the open market... sometimes just cuz they can!2. The declining U.S. dollar, which is what the price is traded on. As the dollar loses value vs. other currencies, the world market price rises. 3. The supply refineries have on hand, which has also recently been in decline...less supply, yet same (if not always more) demand = higher prices. Of course there's all kinds of other reasons...China's expansion, some storm in Mexico, ethanol, etc., but it's certainly not our President. C'mon, ya'll can't have it both ways...either Bush is an idiot or he's an evil genius mastermind. He's not my hero, but I don't think he's either of those two. I might believe he's intent on the formation of the North American Union, but that's another topic. Oil-extremist state? That's a new one for me.
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Post by Hunter60 on Jan 3, 2008 23:43:31 GMT -4
I don't think that he's either one. Personally, I think he's a man who believes in what he's doing. I just don't happen to agree with most of what he's doing. But, and I think this about almost all politicians, is that it's the machine behind them that's evil.
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Post by Akira on Jan 4, 2008 9:52:56 GMT -4
I'm not saying there's some big oil conspiracy, I just wish some people would take in to account the millions of people who need to get by from day to day.
That article posted above is quite sad really...
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Post by Hunter60 on Jan 4, 2008 10:16:16 GMT -4
I'm not saying there's some big oil conspiracy, I just wish some people would take in to account the millions of people who need to get by from day to day. That article posted above is quite sad really... What? Mine? Well, like I said, I do not jump into conspiracies easily and I don't see it as a giant global conspiracy either. I agree with what Rustee is saying. But what I am saying is that there is more to this than just the facts cited above. As in most things political, there is always an agenda somewhere behind the scenes. It's the way power and politics work. It's impossible for me to think that there are maybe only one or two Saudi's actually making a profit on oil right now. But hey, I don't present myself as an expert on anything. I am just basing my opinion on the things that I see and read.
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Post by Tonja Renee on Jan 4, 2008 10:21:32 GMT -4
Actually Hunter I think he was refering to the link that Rustee posted... not your post.
Personally, I think its probably more likely a combination of everything... and I think GW is being influenced to protect family interests - but not on the level that some people are saying... I'm sure there are many many different factors raising the cost of oil... but Greed is the common goal - no matter who is pulling the trigger.
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Post by Hunter60 on Jan 4, 2008 11:59:09 GMT -4
Oh, okay. Sorry. I've been going through a rough patch and haven't been sleeping well. I don't think as clearly some days as I might like.
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